Is there enough international political will to probe war crimes in Gaza?

BossBattleBob

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The international community's resolve to hold accountable those responsible for war crimes in Gaza is being put to the test as the world grapples with whether there is sufficient political will to do so. The United Nations has long argued that peace without justice is unsustainable, and the Israeli military's actions in the past 24 months have only reinforced this notion.

The numbers are staggering: nearly 68,000 Palestinians, including 20,000 children, have lost their lives in a wave of violence that has largely halted with last week's ceasefire. Yet, despite the scale of destruction, the prospects for accountability appear bleak.

A UN Commission of Inquiry found earlier this year that Israel had committed genocide in Gaza, and South Africa has even taken its case to the International Court of Justice (ICJ). However, the ICJ is currently hamstrung by a lack of resources, and any action it takes will require decisive support from member states.

The question is whether that support will materialize. Will Israel be held accountable for its actions, or will impunity become the new norm? The answer may depend on how fervently governments and international organizations rally behind calls for justice.

Dr Mads Gilbert, a researcher who has worked extensively in Palestinian healthcare, paints a stark picture of the human toll: "The scenes I've witnessed are ones that no human should ever have to see. The suffering, the despair, the loss โ€“ it's all just so devastating." Neve Gordon, a professor of international law at Queen Mary University of London, echoes this sentiment: "We need to recognize that these actions amount to war crimes, and we need to take concrete steps to hold Israel accountable."

Meanwhile, Sawsan Zaher, a Palestinian human rights lawyer, is calling for collective action. "This is not just about holding one country accountable; it's about creating a culture of accountability worldwide," she says. "We need to support the victims' families, we need to stand with those who have been harmed, and we need to make sure that justice is served."

Time will tell if these voices will be enough to break through the inertia and push for meaningful action. For now, it seems that the fate of those affected by Israel's actions in Gaza remains uncertain โ€“ a stark reminder of the enduring power of international indifference.
 
๐Ÿ˜” it's so sad to think that all those lives lost in Gaza still haven't got justice... you know what they say "power to the people" but here its more like "powerless to the system". we need to keep speaking out and demanding action from our leaders, every voice matters ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ. its not just about holding one country accountable but also about creating a culture of empathy and understanding ๐ŸŒŽ. we cant just sit back and watch history repeat itself, its time for us to be the change we want to see in the world ๐Ÿ’ช.
 
๐Ÿ˜” i'm so sorry its taken me this long to see this thread... i was living under a rock ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ. 68k+ ppl lost their lives and ur telling me there's no political will to hold israel accountable? ๐Ÿ™„ what does that even mean? did the world just forget about the gaza situation? ๐Ÿคฏ it makes sense that they'd want to avoid a confrontation but come on, its not like they can just sweep this under the rug. we need to demand justice for these ppl, not just talk about it ๐Ÿ’ฌ i'm reading the comments from those who have actually been there, witnessed the devastation firsthand... its heartbreaking ๐Ÿค•. i'm not naive, i know the system is broken but that doesn't mean we can't try to fix it ๐Ÿ”ง
 
the fact that we're even having this convo is wild ๐Ÿคฏ like how can 68k+ ppl lose their lives and still no one wants to hold israel accountable? it's all just a big game of chess, and the pawns are the innocent people ๐Ÿ•ธ๏ธ and meanwhile, the world is just sitting back and watching the human toll mount ๐Ÿ’” i'm low-key impressed by those who are actually calling for justice though ๐Ÿ‘ gotta give props to dr gilbert and neve gordon for speaking truth to power ๐Ÿ’ช
 
The weight of silence is crushing ๐Ÿคฏ... Like, think about it, 68k+ people lost their lives, can you even wrap your head around that? And we're still debating whether to hold someone accountable for it? It's like, how can we claim to value human life and justice if we can't be bothered to stand up for those who've been brutally harmed?

And what's with the ICJ being hamstrung by lack of resources? ๐Ÿค‘ Is that really a surprise given our collective apathy towards actual change? We're all just too comfortable, too caught up in our own bubbles, to care about the suffering of others. It's like, what does it take for us to wake up and demand justice?

These people are speaking truth to power, Neve & Sawsan ๐Ÿ’ช... but are we listening? Can we muster the collective will to push for real change, or will we just let history repeat itself? I'm not holding my breath ๐Ÿคž...
 
๐Ÿค” I don't think we should rush to judge the situation. The UN Commission of Inquiry's report on genocide is definitely a red flag, but let's not forget that Israel has a right to self-defense too ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ. We can't just condemn one side without understanding the complexities of the conflict. Dr Gilbert's eyewitness accounts are haunting, but they're also not the only perspective we should consider ๐Ÿ‘€. The ICJ might be hamstrung by lack of resources, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't support it in its efforts to hold Israel accountable ๐Ÿค. Sawsan Zaher's call for collective action is a good one, but let's not forget the importance of nuance and context too ๐Ÿ˜Š.
 
๐Ÿค— this is just heartbreaking ๐Ÿ™ˆ i dont think we can turn a blind eye to what's happening in gaza 68k ppl lost their lives its just too much ๐Ÿ˜ฑ and i agree with mads gibert & neve gordan, these actions are war crimes and we need to take concrete steps to hold israel accountable ๐Ÿค the international community needs to rally behind these calls for justice ๐Ÿ’ช and support the victims' families who deserve answers ๐Ÿ™ we can't just sit back and let impunity become the new norm ๐Ÿ˜ก
 
๐Ÿค• this is so sad ๐ŸŒŽ 68k+ lives lost in gaza ๐Ÿคฏ 20k children among them ๐Ÿ˜” can't believe there's no strong action from intl orgs ๐Ÿ™„ ICJ needs more resources ASAP ๐Ÿ’ผ but will govts support it? ๐Ÿค or will impunity win the day? ๐Ÿšซ gotta rally behind justice ๐Ÿ’ช for those suffering families ๐Ÿ‘ช and victims' rights ๐Ÿ’โ€โ™€๏ธ hope these voices carry weight โš–๏ธ and change is made soon ๐Ÿ’ฅ
 
I mean, 68,000 ppl can't just disappear ๐Ÿคฏ... it's like, we gotta stand with the victims & their fams ๐Ÿ’ช... justice is so key here, and I don't think it's too much to ask for some accountability from Israel ๐Ÿค... but at the same time, you got this ICJ thing which is kinda hamstrung by lack of resources ๐Ÿค‘... like, what can we do? ๐Ÿค”... maybe we just need to keep shouting about it until someone listens? ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ... or maybe we should just try making our own change instead of waiting for others to step up? ๐Ÿ’ก
 
I'm getting really worried about what's happening in Gaza ๐Ÿค•. It's like, yeah, we all talk about peace and justice, but when it comes down to it, are we actually willing to hold people accountable for committing atrocities? I mean, 68,000 lives lost? That's just staggering. The fact that the ICJ is struggling to make a move because of lack of resources is wild ๐Ÿคฏ. We need to step up and demand justice, especially since UN Commission of Inquiry has already found evidence of genocide. It's like, we can't just leave these people hanging. I'm not sure what's going on in our governments, but it feels like we're all just standing by while people suffer ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ.
 
this is so sad ๐Ÿค•... 68k+ ppl dead & no one doing anything about it? ๐Ÿ™„ gotta ask ourselves what we're even fighting for if not justice & equality ๐Ÿ’” gotta stand with the victims' fams & support Sawsan Zaher's call 2 action ๐ŸŒŸ
 
I'm genuinely worried about the lack of progress on holding Israel accountable for their actions in Gaza ๐Ÿค•. 68k+ Palestinians dead and countless more suffering, and we're still waiting to see if governments & international orgs will back up the calls for justice ๐Ÿ’”. It's not just about a country being held accountable, it's about recognizing war crimes and taking action against them โš–๏ธ. We need to keep shouting about this until someone listens ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ.
 
<3๏ธ๐ŸŒŽ๐Ÿ‘€ Imagine a big pie chart with three slices: Accountability, Inertia, and Indifference. Right now, it looks like the Inertia slice is getting bigger ๐Ÿคฏ. But here's my 2 cents: we need to shift those slices! If we put more support behind calls for justice, accountability can happen ๐Ÿ’ช. We gotta rally together and show Israel that we won't tolerate war crimes ๐Ÿ”’. It's not just about holding one country accountable, it's about creating a culture of accountability worldwide ๐ŸŒˆ.

Here's a simple mind map:
```
+-------------------+
| Accountability |
+-------------------+
|
| Support from govts
v
+-------------------+
| Inertia |
+-------------------+
|
| Collective action
v
+-------------------+
| Indifference |
+-------------------+
```
Let's make that pie chart more balanced ๐ŸŽจ. Time is ticking, and the voices of Dr Mads Gilbert, Neve Gordon, and Sawsan Zaher are essential to breaking through inertia ๐Ÿ’ฌ. We gotta stand with those who have been harmed and support the victims' families ๐Ÿ‘ซ.
 
im so done with all this violence in gaza ๐Ÿคฏ it feels like no matter how many times we see it on the news, nothing ever gets done about it... i was reading about this commission of inquiry that found israel did commit genocide and i just can't even ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™€๏ธ 20,000 kids have lost their lives in the past year and it's still not enough for anyone to do something about it? my heart goes out to all the victims and their families, they deserve justice and accountability... we need to stand with them and make some noise until something gets done ๐Ÿ’ช
 
I'm so broken thinking about all those innocent people losing their lives... 68,000? It's just too much to handle ๐Ÿค•. I can only imagine how devastating it must be for the families and loved ones of the victims. The numbers are staggering, but the human toll is what's really heartbreaking - the suffering, despair, loss... it's all so overwhelming ๐Ÿ˜”. We need to do more, support those affected, stand with them, and push for justice ๐Ÿ™. It's not just about accountability, it's about creating a culture of compassion and empathy worldwide โค๏ธ. Let's hope we can come together to make some real change ๐Ÿ’•.
 
๐Ÿค” 68k+ Palestinians lost their lives in 2 yrs, 20k+ kids among them... ๐Ÿšจ Genocide is a strong word, but ICJ finding says it all. ๐Ÿ’ฏ UN Commission of Inquiry said Israel committed genocide, now we need governments to rally behind justice. ๐Ÿ˜ฉ Impunity won't bring peace, we need collective action from the world ๐ŸŒŽ Sawsan Zaher's right, this is about creating a culture of accountability worldwide. ๐Ÿšซ

Let's look at some stats ๐Ÿ“Š

* Israel has committed 5 major war crimes since 2020 (source: UN)
* 71% of Palestinians in Gaza live below the poverty line (source: World Bank)
* $140B in aid was pledged to Palestine since 2014, but only $10B has been delivered (source: OECD)

๐Ÿ“ˆ The human toll is real:

* 20k+ kids injured or killed
* 3.5 million Palestinians displaced since 2000
* 300 hospitals and healthcare facilities destroyed or damaged in Gaza

We need to see some serious action from governments and international orgs ๐Ÿค
 
i cant believe its come to this ๐Ÿคฏ the numbers are just mindblowing 68000 people lost their lives and yet theres still so much resistance to hold israel accountable it feels like weve been here before with saddams regime in iraq and now we're reliving those same conversations about genocide and war crimes i think we need to put our foot down and demand justice for the palestinian people its not just about holding one country accountable its about creating a culture of accountability worldwide we need to rally behind these brave voices like dr mads gibert and neve gordon and support the victims' families this is whats going to bring real change ๐Ÿ™Œ
 
๐Ÿค” I mean, can't believe we're still debating this stuff 2 years on from that brutal ceasefire. It's not like it's just about Israel or Palestine, it's about justice & human rights for all people caught in the crossfire ๐ŸŒŽ. The fact that a UN Commission of Inquiry already found genocide is a huge deal, but if member states aren't backing the ICJ, what's the point? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ Dr Gilbert's words are just so heartbreaking - those scenes from Gaza are etched in everyone's mind forever ๐Ÿ˜ฉ. We need to step up & make some noise about this! If we don't hold Israel accountable for their actions, who will? It's time for collective action & supporting the victims' families ๐Ÿ’ช
 
I'm so worried about what's happening in Gaza ๐Ÿค•. The numbers are just heartbreaking - 68,000 people dead, and it feels like no one is doing enough to hold anyone accountable ๐Ÿšซ. I mean, a UN Commission of Inquiry already said that Israel committed genocide, but still, nothing seems to be happening ๐Ÿ’”. It's like the international community is just ignoring it or doesn't want to get involved ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ.

I'm not even sure what can be done at this point ๐Ÿ˜•. The ICJ is hamstrung by lack of resources, and governments aren't exactly rushing to back Israel up ๐Ÿ‘Ž. It's frustrating because I know that justice needs to be served here - all these innocent people died for no reason ๐Ÿคฏ. We need to stand with the victims' families and support those who have been harmed, like Sawsan Zaher is saying ๐Ÿ’ช.

I'm also worried about the culture of impunity taking over ๐Ÿšซ. If we don't hold Israel accountable, where does it stop? It's not just about them; it's about what happens when we let this kind of thing slide ๐Ÿ˜Ÿ. I hope people like Dr Gilbert and Neve Gordon can make some noise and get things moving ๐Ÿ’ฅ. But for now... ๐Ÿคž
 
I'm still shook by the numbers coming out of Gaza ๐Ÿคฏ. 68,000 lives lost? That's just mind-boggling. I think we need to remember that there are real people behind those stats - families torn apart, children growing up without parents... it's not just some abstract issue. We need to keep pushing for accountability, even if it feels like a tough road ahead. Can't help but wonder what would happen if world leaders actually put their money where their mouth is ๐Ÿ’ธ
 
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