US justice department memo about boat strikes diverges from Trump narrative

US Justice Department memo on boat strikes fundamentally diverges from Trump's narrative, shifting focus from overdose deaths to collective self-defense.

The US administration has been framing its recent naval attacks on cartel-transporting boats as a legitimate act of self-defense for its regional allies, rather than a direct effort to combat the opioid crisis. This assertion marks a stark departure from President Donald Trump's earlier explanations, which emphasized the fight against overdose deaths.

According to three people familiar with the Justice Department's internal legal analysis, this new rationale relies on an unproven premise that drug cartels are using cocaine shipments to finance armed violence against the security forces of US allies in Mexico and Colombia. The strikes are allegedly aimed at disrupting these alleged operations, which could justify the use of lethal force.

However, Trump has publicly maintained that his administration's objective is to curb the flow of illicit drugs into the United States, not necessarily to target the cartels' financing mechanisms directly. This disparity highlights a crucial divergence between the public narrative and the actual justification for the naval attacks.

Critics argue that the collective self-defense argument lacks concrete evidence and may be an overreach of executive authority. Martin Lederman, a former OLC deputy assistant attorney general during the Obama and Biden administrations, expressed skepticism about this theory, citing the absence of identified states engaging in armed conflict with cartels and insufficient proof of their involvement.

The Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) memo appears to sidestep these concerns by focusing narrowly on whether military force was a lawful policy option. This raises questions about the administration's willingness to scrutinize its own intelligence findings and evaluate the legitimacy of its claims regarding cartel activities.

As tensions between the US and Latin American governments continue, it remains to be seen how this shift in justification will impact the region's security dynamics and the broader effort to combat organized crime.
 
I'm not sure I buy into the whole collective self-defense angle πŸ€”... seems like a pretty stretch to me πŸ˜’. I mean, if we're really claiming that cartels are financing armed violence against our allies' security forces, how do we know that's actually true? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ We need some solid proof before we start talking about lethal force and taking lives πŸ’€. And what about the thousands of people who die from opioid overdoses every year? Don't they deserve some action too? πŸ˜” I'm just worried that this whole thing is getting lost in the rhetoric and we're missing an opportunity to really address the root causes of these problems πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ.
 
I'm low-key confused about what's goin' on here πŸ€”πŸ’₯ US military strikes on cartel boats are all about self-defense now? Like, that doesn't sound like Trump's original plan at all πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈπŸš£β€β™€οΈ They used to say it was all about curbing overdoses πŸ’Š, but now it's more like a big game of "let's disrupt their cash flow" πŸ’ΈπŸ’° This collective self-defense thing is sketchy πŸ€”, especially with no concrete proof that cartels are funding armed violence in Mexico and Colombia 🚫🌎 We need to see some solid evidence before we can get on board with this new narrative πŸ“πŸ’ͺ
 
I'm kinda confused about what's going on with these naval attacks πŸ€”. So they're saying that the real reason is to defend their friends from cartel violence, but Trump said it was to stop the opioid crisis... which one is true? πŸ˜• It feels like there are too many holes in this "collective self-defense" excuse for me. I mean, if we can't even figure out what's going on with these cartels and how they're funding the violence, how can we be sure that using military force is the right answer? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ It just seems like a bunch of stuff being glossed over to make it sound good for politics.
 
This whole thing is quite fishy 🐟...I mean, if they're really going after cartel-transporting boats, shouldn't we at least have some solid proof that these cartels are indeed funding armed violence against Mexican/Colombian security forces? It seems to me like a convenient narrative shift. And what's with the collective self-defense argument? Doesn't that just sound like a fancy way of saying "we're gonna start shooting and hope for the best"? 😬 It's not exactly filling me with confidence in our administration's approach to this whole thing...
 
πŸ€” This is getting interesting πŸš£β€β™‚οΈ! I'm not sure about this new narrative πŸ“... seems like a cop-out πŸ˜’. Trump said one thing, but now it's all about 'collective self-defense' 🀝? Not convinced πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ. Lederman's got some good points πŸ‘, and that OLC memo just dodges the issue πŸ”΄.

I mean, if we're gonna drop the overdose deaths angle πŸ’‰, then what's the real goal here? πŸ’Έ Is it just to flex our military muscles πŸ’ͺ or is there something more going on beneath the surface 🀫? Not sure I trust this 'cartel-financing' theory either πŸ˜’. We need concrete evidence, not just empty claims πŸ“Š.

It's a tricky situation, and I'm not taking sides βš–οΈ... just saying it looks like a bit of a PR spin πŸ”„. Can we get to the bottom of this? πŸ”
 
🌟 I'm not sure if this is a good thing or not but I think its kinda cool that the US administration has finally changed their story about why they attacked those cartel boats. Like, it was super confusing when Trump said one thing and then later said another, so at least now everyone knows what's really going on πŸ€”. But honestly, I'm still a bit skeptical about all this collective self-defense stuff... like, how do we know that the cartels are using the cocaine to fund armed violence against our allies in Mexico and Colombia? πŸ€‘ We need more evidence than just "we think so" 😬. And what's up with the Justice Department trying to sidestep all these questions about intelligence findings and executive authority? It feels like they're kinda dodging the truth πŸ’β€β™€οΈ.
 
I'm low-key worried about this whole situation πŸ€”... seems like the administration is shifting the goalposts (or in this case, the boat strike narrative πŸ˜‰) to justify military action that might be more aggressive than intended. Collective self-defense is a legit concern, but let's not forget our allies' security forces are trained for all sorts of threats, not just cartel-related ones 🚨

I'm also kinda curious why they're focusing on disrupting alleged operations to finance armed violence, when the real issue seems to be the flow of illicit drugs into the US 🀝. It feels like we're being told one thing publicly, but getting a different story from within the Justice Department πŸ“š.

Let's not forget that as a global community, our security is intertwined 🌎... if we want to combat organized crime and protect ourselves, we need to be careful about how we do it πŸ’‘.
 
idk why they're trying to spin this whole boat strike thing as some kinda collective self-defense op πŸ€” its like, still pretty clear that trump is just trying to boost his rep on tackling the opioid crisis πŸ“‰ instead of actually dealing with the root issues πŸ‘ and now the doj is just going along with it? πŸ™„
 
OMG, can you believe what's going on with the US gov? They're totally changing their story about why they're attacking those cartel boats! Back in my day, we used to think it was all about curbing the flow of illicit drugs into the States... but now it's like, collective self-defense and all that jazz 🀯

I mean, what's up with this "cartels are funding armed violence against US allies" thing? That sounds like a bunch of hooey to me. I've been following these developments closely, and it just doesn't add up. We need concrete evidence before we're talking about using lethal force, you know? πŸ€”

And what's with the Justice Department trying to sidestep all the concerns? It's like they're not even willing to question their own intel findings anymore... that's a major red flag in my book! 😬
 
omg i just can't even lol this is so crazy like they're just making up stuff about these cartels and trying to justify killing people i'm not buying it at all 🀣 my cousin's friend's brother was a smuggler like 5 years ago and he said the cartels were more like family businesses than anything else, you know? how can we trust that this is even true tho? anyway, this shift in narrative is so suspect it feels like they're trying to cover their own tracks i'm low-key worried about what's going down in mexico lol
 
Just read about the Justice Department memo on boat strikes and I gotta say...this whole thing is kinda sketchy πŸ€”. The administration's justifying naval attacks as a form of collective self-defense, but it feels like they're just trying to cover their own behinds πŸ‘Š. I mean, Trump said he's fighting opioid deaths, but now it's all about disrupting cartel financing? That sounds like a convenient excuse to me πŸ€‘. And what really gets me is that the Justice Department's basically sidestepping concerns about concrete evidence and executive overreach πŸ’β€β™‚οΈ. Can't we just get some straight answers from our leaders for once? 😩
 
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