Does each boat strike off the coast of Venezuela save 25,000 US lives?

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US Military Strikes Off Venezuela Coast May Not Be Saving as Many Lives as Claimed, Experts Say

The Trump administration has been touting recent military strikes on five Venezuelan boats as having saved "at least 100,000 American lives" due to the alleged thwarting of drug smuggling. However, according to experts, this figure is mathematically dubious and lacks concrete evidence.

President Donald Trump stated during a media conference that each boat struck by US military forces results in the saving of approximately 25,000 lives, claiming that every person on those boats would have died if they were allowed to continue their journey. But, the fact-checking website PolitiFact has found that the administration failed to provide any concrete evidence regarding the type or quantity of drugs allegedly being transported on these vessels.

While fentanyl is often cited as a major contributor to US overdose deaths, most illicit fentanyl in the country comes from Mexico via official ports of entry and primarily gets smuggled in by US citizens. Furthermore, even if the boats were carrying 25,000 lethal doses, it's unclear whether destroying them would have prevented 125,000 deaths, nearly double the number of overdose deaths that occurred between May and April.

Experts point out that there is no reliable data on how many lives are saved due to drug interception efforts. Additionally, the relationship between seized drugs and actual lives saved is complex, taking into account variables such as a person's weight, tolerance, and exposure history.

In light of these findings, PolitiFact has concluded that Trump's claim is false.
 
this is wild to me 🤯 like how can you just estimate the number of lives saved from some random boat strikes? doesn't seem super legit tbh 🙃 and what's up with all these assumptions about fentanyl and overdose deaths? it's complicated enough without throwing in extra variables. plus, where's the actual proof that destroying those boats was even effective? i'm not saying we shouldn't care about stopping smugglers, but let's keep it real 🤷‍♂️
 
I'm not buying it 🤔... I mean, come on, 100k+ American lives saved by US military strikes? That sounds like a pretty big number to me... But then again, I'm no expert 😂. If we're gonna take Trump's word for it, that means every single one of those intercepted boats was carrying a massive dose of fentanyl that just happened to be headed straight for the States 🤯... which is kinda unlikely.

Plus, let's not forget that most fentanyl in US comes from Mexico via legit ports and is smuggled by US citizens. So what exactly were these Venezuelan boats carrying that made it worth risking 25k+ lives? 🔮 Not providing evidence doesn't exactly scream credibility to me... And those math problems you do the numbers, and I'm pretty sure it's not as simple as just destroying one boat saving 25k lives 🤷‍♂️.

I get what Trump is trying to do – save face – but can we just stick to the facts for once? 💡 At least that would be a start...
 
idk why trump thinks destroying 5 boats automatically saves like 125k lives 🤔... sounds fishy to me. it's not just about the amount of drugs on the boat but also how people are affected by them. and what's with all these 'expert' claims that are just speculation? can't we get some concrete numbers here? 📊💡
 
idk why trumps gotta be so extra about this stuff 🤷‍♂️ like what even is the real number of lives saved lol? dont get me wrong im all for crackin down on those smugglin boat dudes but 100k american lives?? that's just crazy talk 🚫 & btw didnt they have proof or somethin? polifact found out trumps claim was false 😬 cant we just stick to the facts for once?
 
I'm low-key worried about this whole thing 🤔 #NotBuyingIt. I mean, how can we be sure those 100k lives were saved when there's no concrete evidence? The fact-checking website PolitiFact already said Trump's claim was false 😬 #FactsMatter. Plus, most fentanyl in the US comes from Mexico via official ports of entry, so what even is the point of these military strikes? 🤷‍♂️ #NotImpressed. Can we at least get reliable data on how many lives are saved due to drug interception efforts? That'd be a good starting point 💡 #TransparencyMatters.
 
I'm literally shaking my head over this one... 100k lives saved by those US military strikes? Are you bloody kidding me?! 🤯 I mean, what even is the logic behind this number? It just sounds like a bunch of made-up stats to impress some voters back in the States. And now we're supposed to believe that every single person on those boats was gonna die if they weren't intercepted by the US military? That's just not adding up, mate.

And don't even get me started on the fact-checking website PolitiFact saying Trump's claim is false. Like, come on, what's new here? 🙄 It's always something with that guy. I mean, can't we just have some genuine, evidence-based info from our leaders for once?

It's not like destroying a few boats full of fentanyl is gonna single-handedly save the lives of nearly 125k people who've already overdosed on this stuff. We need to be talking about real solutions here, not just some empty PR stunt to boost Trump's approval ratings. 😡
 
I'm low-key wondering if this whole "100k lives saved" thing is just a load of hype 🤔. I mean, think about it - we can't even track the number of lives saved due to drug interception efforts, and the math just doesn't add up when it comes to Trump's claim... like, what's with the 25k-per-boat assumption? 🤷‍♂️ And isn't most fentanyl in the US coming from Mexico anyway? 🇲🇽 It's all a bit sketchy to me. Can we really say that destroying those boats is even making a dent in the opioid crisis? 🚫
 
I gotta say 1k+ overdose deaths in the US are still way too high and it's crazy we're still debating how effective our 'War on Drugs' is 🤯. Those military strikes might've made headlines but have they really made a dent in the problem? I mean, if 25k lives are saved per boat that's like 1k+ per day, which sounds good but when you consider the overall number of overdoses it just doesn't add up to much 📊. And what about all the resources spent on these ops, could we be using that money for actual healthcare initiatives instead? Let's get some data on this and make informed decisions rather than just throwing numbers around 📈.

Stats:
- 1k+ overdose deaths in US (2020)
- 25k lives saved per boat estimate
- $billions spent on 'War on Drugs' ops
- No reliable data on lives saved due to drug interception efforts

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I'm totally confused by this whole story 🤔. So, the US military says they're saving 100k lives by stopping drug smuggling boats off the coast of Venezuela... but experts are saying that's a pretty big number and doesn't actually add up? I mean, if you think about it, it's like saying that just one more person dying from an overdose is worth all this effort. And what even is a "lives saved" metric anyway? Is it based on how many people would've died from the drugs if they weren't intercepted?

And another thing... if most of the fentanyl in the US comes from Mexico and gets smuggled in by US citizens, does stopping those little boats really make that much of a difference? I'm not saying we shouldn't try to stop drug smuggling or anything... but is this really the best way to do it?
 
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