‘Indecency has become a new hallmark’: writer and historian Jelani Cobb on race in Donald Trump’s America

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The notion that indecency has become a hallmark of American politics under Donald Trump's presidency cannot be overstated. According to Jelani Cobb, a renowned author, historian, and staff writer at the New Yorker magazine, this shift towards an environment where civility and respect for opposing views are deemed "indecent" is deeply troubling.

Cobb's book, Three or More Is a Riot: Notes on How We Got Here, chronicles the tumultuous period from Trayvon Martin's killing in 2012 to George Floyd's murder in 2020. The latter event sparked widespread protests and calls for systemic change, but Trump and his allies responded by weaponizing prejudice against marginalized groups.

Trump's base has been successful in mobilizing around a twisted vision of identity politics that promotes white-identity politics as the primary concern. Cobb argues that this approach is fundamentally one-sided, with little regard for the perspectives and experiences of those who do not identify as white. The consequences of this are stark, with institutions such as universities being targeted by Trump's administration.

In Utah, the shooting of Charlie Kirk has served as a catalyst for an even more intense backlash against perceived left-wing radicalism. However, Cobb is unimpressed by this response, instead describing it as hypocritical. The irony lies in the fact that those who claim to be champions of free speech and democracy are also quick to criminalize progressive ideas and liberal or democratic institutions.

Ultimately, Cobb suggests that what we're witnessing is not a departure from but rather a resurgence of autocratic tendencies in America. He argues that this shift towards indecency has become a hallmark of American politics under Trump's presidency, reflecting an unhealthy obsession with identity and a complete disregard for the principles of democracy and social justice.

Despite the ominous tone, Cobb remains cautiously optimistic about the potential for change. While acknowledging that the situation is precarious, he believes that history shows us that there have been times when we've navigated similar crises before and emerged stronger on the other side.
 
I dont understand whats goin on in america rn 🤔 its like theyre tryin to take away all the progress made from 2012-2020 🚫 civility & respect are now "indecent"? 🙅‍♂️ thats wild. i mean im all for free speech, but not when its used to hurt ppl 💔 cant we just agree to disagree? 😐 i feel like theres a lot of division in america right now and i dont think it can be fixed overnight ⏰ what do u guys think about all this? 🤷‍♂️
 
man this whole thing is wild 🤯 Trump's presidency has been a whole different beast from anything I remember growing up... it feels like our politicians are more concerned with scoring points against each other than actually working for us 🙄 Cobb's book sounds like a must-read, gotta understand how we got here and what's at stake. it's crazy how some people get so worked up about identity politics when it's just a bunch of labels 📚 anyway, I guess the question is where do we go from here? can we find a way to have real conversations without demonizing each other? 🤔
 
its so sad to see america like this :(🤕 thinkin bout all the pain & hurt ppl are goin thru because of politics 🤝 ugh, cant we just try 2 listen 2 each other & understand we aint all that diff? 😔 its not just about free speech but also about respect & empathy ❤️ we gotta remember that everyone has a story 2 tell & opinions 2 share 💬
 
🤯 Trump's crew has been all about stirrin' up drama & disrespectin' others opinions 🙄. It's super scary to see how far they've taken this "indecent" vibes 💔. Like, what even is that? 🤷‍♀️ Cobb's book is a must-read for anyone wonderin' what's goin' on with our country right now 📚. We need more people like him speakin' truth to power & holdin' folks accountable for their actions 🗣️.

I'm gettin' so tired of the "both sides" narrative 🙄. It's time to stop makin' excuses for bad behavior & start holdin' people in power accountable for their actions 💪. We need more empathy & understanding, not less 🤝. And can we please just talk about this stuff like adults? 😒 No more childish name-callin' or tryin' to shut down the other side's opinions 👎.

It's wild that some folks are actin' like they're victims when it's clear they're bein' reckless & intolerant 🙅‍♂️. We can't just silence anyone with opposing views 🤷‍♀️. That's not how democracy works 🗳️. And honestly, I'm still hopeful that we can come together as a country & find some common ground 🌈.
 
the usa is in a weird place right now 🤯... it feels like they're trying to erase all the progress they made during obama's presidency and go back to the dark ages of racism & sexism 💔... i'm not surprised though, trump was always gonna be the one to shake things up 🔥... but still, it's crazy how they're trying to turn free speech into a joke 🤣... Cobb's book sounds like a must-read tho 📚
 
I'm getting so tired of all these online arguments 🤯... like, can't we just try to understand each other's perspectives without throwing shade? 🙄 I mean, Cobb's got a point about how Trump's crew has taken this whole identity politics thing and run with it, but at the same time, let's not forget that there are so many good people on both sides of the aisle who genuinely care about making things right 💕. And honestly, can we just take a deep breath and try to see where the other person is coming from? 🤗 It feels like we're getting further apart instead of closer together 😔.
 
I'm still trying to wrap my head around how far American politics has fallen 🤯. It's crazy how some people are so invested in tearing others down, especially when it comes to identity and perspectives that don't align with their own views. Like, if we can't have a civil conversation anymore, what does that say about us as a society? I'm not sure if Cobb is being too generous with his optimism, but at the same time, I do think there's always hope for change 🌈. We've seen it happen before, and I believe it can happen again. But we need to start having more nuanced conversations about these issues and try to understand each other's perspectives 💬.
 
I'm kinda worried about where America's headed 🤕. It feels like civility's just a word they don't understand anymore. Trump's crew's got this whole "us vs them" vibe going on, where anyone who doesn't fit their narrow view is somehow less worthy. It's messed up, you know? Like, institutions get attacked for being too progressive... meanwhile, the one's doing the attacking is the one with a history of controversy 🤦‍♂️. Cobb makes some valid points about how this whole thing is actually just a resurgence of autocratic tendencies 👎. Still hopeful that we can learn from our mistakes and come out stronger on the other side, but it's scary to think what might happen if things keep going down this road 😬.
 
😕 Trump's presidency has turned American politics into a super toxic place where people aren't afraid to speak their minds but end up hurting others in the process 🤯. Like, Jelani Cobb is right when he says that this whole identity politics thing has become super one-sided and ignores the experiences of people who don't fit into that narrative 🙅‍♂️. It's wild how Trump's base can just weaponize prejudice against marginalized groups and then act like they're the ones being oppressed 😒. And yeah, universities getting targeted by his admin is pretty messed up 🤔. Charlie Kirk's shooting in Utah was a weird catalyst for all this backlash, but Cobb calling it out as hypocritical is so true 🙌. I'm with him on thinking that what we're seeing is basically a resurgence of autocratic tendencies under Trump 👎. But I gotta agree that despite the dark tone, there's still hope for change 💫.
 
I'm really worried about where America's heading 🤕. It seems like everyone's getting super heated about everything and nobody's willing to listen to opposing views anymore. Like, what happened to civility? I remember when my parents were kids, they used to talk about politics without it being this toxic 😒. And now, it feels like anyone who doesn't agree with Trump is basically a threat to society? That's not how democracy works 🤷‍♀️. It's all about finding common ground and respecting each other's differences. The fact that some people are actually trying to shut down universities for having progressive ideas is just wild 😲. We need more empathy and understanding, not less 👀.
 
I don't know man... this whole thing with Trump's base is like, super concerning 🤯. I mean, it feels like they're trying to turn everything into an identity politics game, you know? And then when people push back, it's like "you're being indecent"... what even is that? 🙄 It's just so... toxic.

And can we talk about how hypocritical it is? Like, if you're all about free speech and democracy, then shouldn't you be willing to listen to opposing views without trying to shut them down? 🤔 It feels like they're more interested in silencing people who disagree with them than actually having a nuanced discussion.

But at the same time... I do think there's hope for change. We've been through tough times before, and we always manage to come out stronger on the other side 💪. Maybe this is just one of those moments where we're forced to confront our own flaws and work towards being better people 🤝.
 
🤔 I'm so done with how Trump's America is always pitting one identity against another. Like, what's next? We're already seeing people get shot for having different opinions 🚫. And Cobb is right, this whole "white-identity politics" thing is super one-sided and ignores everyone else's experiences. It's like, can't we just have a respectful conversation without resorting to violence or hate speech? 😩 The fact that universities are being targeted by Trump's admin is just ridiculous. I mean, I get it, they're trying to silence progressive voices, but newsflash: you can't silence us by silencing our ideas 🤷‍♀️. And Cobb's right, this whole thing is a resurgence of autocratic tendencies... like, we need to wake up and remember that democracy is supposed to be about listening to everyone, not just the majority 🗣️. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for change, but it's hard not to feel hopeless when all these hate groups are running wild 🌪️.
 
I'm still trying to wrap my head around how far things have come under Trump's presidency 🤯. Cobb makes some really valid points about how the definition of "indecent" has shifted in the US, but what I find particularly worrying is that this seems to be part of a larger pattern of silencing marginalized voices. It's like we're living in a world where you can't even express dissent without being labeled as "radical" or "uncivil". I mean, what happened to constructive debate? 🤔
 
man, this stuff is wild 🤯 I'm not surprised to hear that trump's base has been playing with fire all over again, but it's like they think they're above the law or something. idk how much more of this country can take before things just... explode 🚫 i mean, Cobb makes some valid points about the state of politics in america right now, but I'm not sure if he's giving trump's base too much credit for being "hypocritical" 😒 like, they're not exactly being nuanced or thoughtful here. and what's up with this obsession with identity? can't we just talk to each other as humans without making it all about who fits into which box? 🤷‍♀️ anyway, I do think Cobb has a point that there have been times before where america's navigated some tough stuff and come out stronger on the other side 💪 but for now, i'm just trying to stay safe in my bubble 🛸
 
I'm worried about where America is headed 🤕. The way things are going, it feels like we're living in a reality TV show, but instead of entertainment, it's our democracy that's being manipulated for ratings 📺. Trump's base has created this toxic atmosphere where anyone who doesn't conform to their twisted ideology gets bullied or silenced. It's unacceptable and honestly, I'm at a loss for words 😩.

The irony is that those who claim to be fighting for free speech are actually the ones stifling it. They're so afraid of having their views challenged that they lash out at anyone who dares to disagree with them 🤬. Meanwhile, institutions like universities are being unfairly targeted by Trump's administration. It's a chilling sight to see our democratic institutions being eroded.

I'm not sure what the future holds, but I do know that we need to come together and demand more from ourselves. We can't just sit back and watch as our democracy is dismantled piece by piece 🤝. Cobb's book is a wake-up call, reminding us that this isn't a new phenomenon and that we've been here before. But instead of learning from history, we're repeating it all over again 🕰️.

I'm cautiously optimistic like Cobb says, but I think it's because I've seen the resilience of the American people in the past. We've navigated tough times before and come out stronger on the other side 💪. Maybe this time will be no different, but for now, I'm just keeping a close eye on things 👀.
 
I'm really concerned about what's happening in America right now 🤕. It feels like everyone's lost sight of how to have a respectful conversation without it turning into a full-blown fight 💣. We need to start valuing civility over drama, and actually listening to each other's perspectives instead of just shouting at the top of our lungs 🗣️. I'm all for free speech, but when we start using that as an excuse to silence marginalized voices, it's a problem 🤦‍♀️. We need to find a way to disagree without being disagreeable 😒, and prioritize empathy over identity politics 🌈.
 
idk what's so troubling about some people getting worked up over politics... like, can't they just respect each other's opinions? 🤷‍♂️ i think cobb's book is super biased towards the left and doesn't give white people a fair shake. and honestly, if you're gonna say that identity politics is twisted, why not own it and explain what you mean? 🙄 instead of just throwing around vague terms like "autocratic tendencies".
 
🤔 i just had the craziest dream last night... i was walking through a beautiful forest with my dog, and we stumbled upon this hidden meadow filled with wildflowers 🌼🐶 it was so peaceful, i felt like i was in another world. anyway, back to politics... have you guys tried that new iced coffee place downtown? ☕️ i'm obsessed! i know some ppl might think it's a waste of money, but man, their cold brew is life-changing 😂
 
I'm not sure I buy into this idea that Trump's crew has somehow made indecency a hallmark of American politics. Sounds like some pretty loaded language to me 🤔. Cobb's got some legit points about how Trump's team has weaponized prejudice and identity politics, but is he saying we've never seen anything like this before? What about all the times politicians have gotten personal on the campaign trail? Or how about the good ol' days of McCarthyism? It's easy to get worked up over one guy's rhetoric, but let's not forget the historical context 😒. And what's with all these labels - "white-identity politics" and "left-wing radicalism"? Just call it what it is: a bunch of folks being pretty darn upset about some stuff 🤷‍♂️.
 
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