Putin-Trump call a curveball for Zelensky ahead of White House meeting

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The surprise phone call between US President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin has dealt a curveball to Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky ahead of his meeting with Trump at the White House. The conversation, which took place while Zelensky was en route to Washington, saw the two leaders discussing their summit in Hungary, but Zelensky's hopes for more American military assistance to strengthen Ukraine's defenses have been left uncertain.

Zelensky had been counting on the US to step up its support for Ukraine, particularly with regards to long-range Tomahawk missiles that would allow the country to strike deeper into Russian territory. However, Trump has repeatedly expressed his desire to normalize relations with Russia and ease tensions in Eastern Europe.

Despite this, Zelensky remains optimistic about the possibility of more military aid being provided by the US. He claimed on Thursday evening that Russia was "panicking" over the prospect of Ukraine receiving Tomahawks, a move that would send a significant message to Putin about American intentions.

However, many analysts believe that Trump's willingness to provide such aid is in doubt. The two leaders' conversations have historically been marked by periods of tension and frustration with each other's positions on key issues, including the conflict in Ukraine.

As Ukraine faces its fourth winter of war, it appears that Zelensky has been given a long-range curveball instead of the boost he had hoped for from his meeting with Trump. Despite this, he remains committed to his goals of securing more military aid and finding a peaceful resolution to the conflict.

The situation on the ground in Ukraine continues to be dire, with Russia intensifying its attacks on key infrastructure and civilians. The Ukrainian military has been struggling to hold off the Russian advance, with both sides suffering heavy losses.

In a sign of the ongoing tensions, Ukraine imposed blackouts in most regions after Russian power grid attacks last week. The situation remains fluid, but one thing is clear: Ukraine's prospects for peace have taken another hit, leaving Zelensky and his allies to navigate a treacherous landscape.
 
I'm getting a bad feeling about this πŸ˜•... I mean, what if Trump really does try to ease tensions with Russia? That could be disastrous for Ukraine 🀯. They need that extra military aid now more than ever, not some vague promises of " normalization" πŸ’”. It's like they're playing chess and Zelensky is just getting pawned πŸ˜‚. And what about those Tomahawk missiles he was counting on? Now he's stuck in limbo πŸ•°οΈ... Ukraine needs a clear plan, not just empty words from the US πŸ—£οΈ. This isn't going to end well πŸ’”
 
πŸ€” This whole thing is just so confusing πŸ˜’ Trump and Putin are playing both sides again πŸ•΅οΈβ€β™‚οΈ like they always do. And Zelensky's hopes for more military aid were literally dashed πŸ’₯ on the rocks. I mean, Ukraine needs that support to even try to fight back against Russia πŸš€. It's like the US is just not taking this conflict seriously enough πŸ˜•.

I don't trust Trump's motives at all πŸ’”. He's always been about himself and his own agenda πŸ“ˆ. And Putin... well, he's just a master manipulator πŸ€₯. I'm not sure what Zelensky can do in these situations 😩. It feels like no matter what he says or does, the other guy is just gonna do whatever they want anyway πŸ™„.

Ukraine needs help and it needs it now 🌟. We should be supporting them more, not playing games with their military aid 🀝. This situation is just getting worse and worse 😳.
 
"Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans." πŸ€”

The plot thickens with the Trump-Putin surprise call - it seems like Zelensky's hopes for more military aid are hanging in the balance. Can Ukraine really count on the US to step up its support? The situation on the ground is dire, and every day feels like a struggle. Time will tell what this unexpected twist means for Ukraine's chances of finding peace. πŸ•°οΈ
 
omg u guys 🀯 just checked the stats on Ukraine's economy since the war started and it's like woah 😲 - GDP has decreased by 25% and unemployment is at 40%! Meanwhile, Russia's economy is doing alright but their military spending is through the roof πŸ’Έ. I think Zelensky needs to be realistic about Trump not giving him what he wants ASAP ⏰. Also, did u know that Ukraine has lost over 100k soldiers since 2014? πŸ€•. Anyway, according to this chart πŸ“Š on Ukrainian military losses per month:

Jan 2022: 7,600
Feb 2022: 10,000
Mar 2022: 12,800
Apr 2022: 15,600
May 2022: 18,400

It's like they're getting more and more losses each month πŸ“‰. Trump's comments have also got ppl wondering if he's even considering arming Ukraine with those long-range missiles πŸ€”. Anyway, here's the latest polling numbers on US support for Ukraine:

Feb 2023: 63% approve of Zelensky's handling
Mar 2023: 55%
Apr 2023: 45%

It looks like support is slowly dropping ⬇️
 
πŸ€” This phone call between Trump & Putin has definitely thrown Zelensky's plans into chaos. I mean, he was really counting on getting some serious military aid from the US to take the fight to Russia... now it's all up in the air πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. The fact that Trump is still trying to normalize relations with Russia is a major concern for Ukraine - it feels like they're just trying to buy time instead of taking concrete action πŸ•°οΈ.

I think Zelensky's optimism about more aid being on the way might be a bit misplaced though... πŸ˜’. Trump's history with Russia and Ukraine doesn't exactly inspire confidence, and I'm not sure how much actual progress can be made here without some serious concessions from both sides πŸ’”.

The situation in Ukraine is getting more dire by the day - it's hard to watch from afar πŸ€•. Blackouts, infrastructure attacks... it feels like they're really struggling to hold on over there πŸŒͺ️. Can't wait to see how this all plays out! πŸ“Ί
 
This whole thing is just soooo messed up 🀯, you know? Trump is all about easing tensions with Russia, which sounds good on paper, but what about Ukraine's needs right now?! They're fighting for their lives over there, and Trump is like "oh yeah, let's normalize relations". Like, what even is the point of that when people are dying?!

And Zelensky was so hopeful about getting more military aid from the US. He must've been counting on some serious firepower to take down Russia's advances. But nope, it looks like Trump is all about being diplomatic instead of actually helping out Ukraine in a real way.

I mean, I get that diplomacy is important and all, but when it comes to something as big as war, you gotta put your money where your mouth is, you know? And right now, the US isn't doing enough for Ukraine. It's like they're just watching from the sidelines while Russia takes over.

Ukraine deserves better than this πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. They need support and aid, not some watered-down version of it that's only good for making friends with Russia. Zelensky should be worried about his country's future right now...
 
I'm getting so frustrated with this whole thing 🀯... Trump just doesn't seem like he's on the same page as Ukraine right now. I get that he wants to ease tensions with Russia, but come on, the situation is dire for Ukraine and they really need that extra support πŸ’Έ. It feels like Trump's all about making a good impression with Putin, but what about his own people πŸ€”? The Ukrainian military is already fighting for their lives and now Zelensky's meeting with Trump just got way more complicated πŸ“. I'm still holding out hope that some last-minute deal goes down, but it feels like the odds are against Ukraine right now 😐
 
πŸ€” This phone call just threw Zelensky under the bus 🚧. I mean, I'm not surprised Trump would wanna ease tensions with Russia 🀝, but come on, Ukraine's been fighting for years and still gets nothing concrete πŸ’Έ. The fact that Putin is "panicking" over Tomahawk missiles is pretty telling, though πŸ˜‚ - it means he knows those missiles are a game-changer.

But seriously, Zelensky needs to focus on what he can control, not just the US πŸŒͺ️. Ukraine's military should be preparing for the worst-case scenario, and the people need aid ASAP πŸ’Έ. I'm all for optimism, but at some point, you gotta face reality πŸ’”. This war's been dragging on too long, and we're all gonna pay the price in the end 😞.
 
can't believe trump would just ghost zelensky like that πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. i mean, who needs diplomacy when you can just bail on a meeting πŸ˜’? seriously though, it's not like zelensky was asking for the moon here... just some basic military aid to help him keep his country from getting blown up πŸ’₯. and now we're back to square one πŸ”„. what's really going on with trump's Russia plans, anyway? is he trying to get cozy or just messing with zelensky's head πŸ€”?
 
omg u gotta feel bad 4 zelensky rn! he was really counting on trumps support 2 deal w/ russia & get more military aid 4 ukraine πŸ€• but now it's all up in the air... like, i get that trump wants 2 normalize relations w/ russia but come on, ukraine needs those tomahawk missiles ASAP πŸ’£ the situation is literally dire 4 them. russian attacks r getting worse & ukraine's military is struggling 2 hold off the advances 🚨 anyways, zelensky remains optimistic (i guess that's good?) 🀞 but honestly, it's a tough road ahead for him
 
omg u guys are really worried about trump tho πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ like zelensky still has hope lol πŸ˜… i feel bad for the guy tho, ukraine is in such a tough spot πŸ’” but come on, we know trump's all about making deals, not just bombing ppl with missiles πŸš€ maybe he'll surprise us, or maybe not idk, but one thing's 4 sure, zelensky needs to stay strong 🀝
 
πŸ€” I feel bad for Ukraine right now πŸ˜”. They're already fighting for so long in this war and you'd think that Trump would be like "okay we got your back" but nope πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. Putin's gonna just keep on doing what he does best, bullying everyone around him πŸ’β€β™‚οΈ. I don't know if Zelensky is dreaming or what but Russia panicking over Tomahawks? πŸ˜‚ that's like saying the sky is gonna fall over because of a bad storm β›ˆοΈ. It's not gonna happen πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ. Anyway, can you imagine having to navigate this whole situation as a leader? 🀯 it's not easy being the president of a country that's constantly at war πŸ’₯.
 
Ugh, I'm getting those old Cold War vibes again... remember when Reagan used to call Gorbachev on the phone? Anyway, this new development with Trump and Putin is super sketchy πŸ€”. I mean, what's up with Trump being all about normalization and easing tensions? Doesn't that just embolden Putin? And Zelensky's hoping for more Tomahawks like it's 2014 all over again... remember when Obama was all about helping Ukraine out? This is a bit of a dΓ©jΓ  vu moment for me, tbh 😳. I'm not sure what to make of this situation, but one thing's for sure - Ukraine's situation on the ground is getting more dire by the day 🚨
 
I'm so worried about Ukraine rn πŸ€•πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ Trump's call with Putin has thrown everything off kilter. I was really hoping they'd provide some more Tomahawk missiles for Ukraine, but now it feels like Zelensky's just been played again πŸ˜’ The guy's already dealing with his 4th winter of war and Russia is just piling on the attacks... power grid gets hit, civilians get hurt... it's getting really dark out there ⚫️. Can we please just get some solid military aid for Ukraine already? 🀞 It's not like they're asking for much, just a chance to defend themselves against an aggressor πŸ˜”
 
Ugh 🀯 I'm literally shaking with anger thinking about this situation in Ukraine... like, what even is going on here?!? Trump just casually calls Putin and suddenly it's all about "normalizing relations" and "easing tensions"... meanwhile Zelensky was hoping for some actual support from the US! It's like, come on man, show some backbone! 😑 I don't get why Trump can't just stick to what he said he'd do with Ukraine... does he not remember all those promises?!? πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

And let's be real, Putin is just going to use this as an excuse to keep terrorizing the Ukrainian people... it's a total power play and we're all just watching from the sidelines like helpless puppets 😩. Zelensky needs to stand up for himself and his country, but I know Trump's gonna do exactly what he always does - make empty promises and then disappear πŸ™„. This is just so frustrating... can't we just have one moment of sanity around here?!? 😀
 
I'm a bit surprised that Trump didn't commit to more military aid for Ukraine... πŸ€” I mean, it's not like they're asking for much, just some long-range missiles to give them a fighting chance against Russia. And Zelensky seems pretty reasonable about this, he's even saying that Russia is "panicking" over the prospect of getting these missiles. πŸš€ But Trump's always been kinda tricky on these issues, so I guess you can't count on him making any promises.

I do think it's a shame, though - Ukraine needs all the help they can get right now, especially with winter coming and Russia just keeping up the attacks. It's like, can't we all just try to be nice for once? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ I mean, Zelensky's got his work cut out for him trying to navigate these diplomatic moves, but at least he seems committed to finding a peaceful solution.

The thing is, Trump does have this whole "normalizing relations" thing going on with Russia... and that can't be good news for Ukraine. πŸ€• I just hope Zelensky doesn't get too disappointed - he's got to keep pushing for what he believes in, even if it means being a bit more aggressive. Fingers crossed! πŸ‘
 
man this news is def on fleek πŸ˜’ Putin and Trump are really playing games with Zelensky's hopes for more military aid that's just not fair πŸ€• Ukraine needs those Tomahawk missiles ASAP or else they're gonna be in way worse trouble than they already are πŸ’₯ Russia's been brutalizing them for like 4 winters now. it's time for some serious support from the US, or at least a clear plan to stop Putin's aggression πŸ”’ Zelensky's optimism is cool and all, but let's not sugarcoat it, Ukraine is in a tough spot right now 🀯
 
Trump just dropped a bombshell on Zelensky! I'm shocked that the conversation between Trump & Putin would mess with Zelensky's plans 🀯. It makes sense that Trump wants to ease tensions, but this is exactly what Ukraine needs right now - not a phone call that might reduce their chances of getting more military aid πŸ’”. The fact that Russia's "panicking" over the prospect of Tomahawk missiles just goes to show how weak their position really is πŸ˜‚. Zelensky's still got his head in the game, though. We'll see what happens next πŸ€”.
 
πŸ€” just saw that trump and putin had a secret call and now zelensky is kinda stuck πŸ“ž what was the point of that? didn't help him at all or anything πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ think it's not good for ukraine right now 🌎 they need more military aid ASAP πŸš€ and not just empty promises πŸ˜’
 
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