Putin-Trump call a curveball for Zelensky ahead of White House meeting

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The Kremlin's calculated move to placate the US president has given Ukraine a long-range curveball. President Volodymyr Zelensky had hoped for more American military assistance in his battle against Russia, but instead he has been handed a tantalizing prospect - permission from Donald Trump to purchase long-range Tomahawk missiles.

The phone call between Trump and Putin on Thursday was seen as a masterstroke by the Kremlin. It appears that the Russian president successfully appealed to Trump's frustration with Ukraine and convinced him to back off his threats of tougher sanctions or more destructive weapons.

Zelensky, however, is not one to be easily placated. He has been met with optimism about the possibility of Tomahawk missiles being deployed in Ukraine, which would give its military a significant advantage over Russia. However, Trump's willingness to give them was always in doubt, and this sudden change of heart has left many questioning whether it will come to fruition.

The pattern is familiar - every time Trump grows increasingly frustrated with Putin's intransigence over Ukraine, he is placated by a conversation with the Russian president. This is not the first time that Trump has backed down from his threats in favor of a phone call with Putin, and many are starting to wonder whether this is just a game.

As Ukraine faces its fourth winter of war, few people believe that Trump's claim that he can turn his "success" in the Middle East into momentum towards peace in Ukraine. The issue of Tomahawk missiles remains a contentious one, and it is unclear what concessions Putin will have to make for them to be deployed.

One thing is certain - Russia is being given something by this latest development. The country's military is currently engaged in a battle with Ukraine for control of the railways, which are crucial for transporting troops, equipment, and supplies. This latest wave of attacks has left many civilians dead or injured, and it is unclear how long the conflict will last.

For now, Ukraine has been given a long-range curveball instead of the Tomahawk missiles they so desperately need. The country's government faces an uncertain future as it struggles to stay one step ahead of its enemy, while Trump's intentions remain as opaque as ever.
 
πŸ€” Trump's phone calls with Putin are like a game of chess, but Ukraine is stuck in the middle 🎲. Can we trust the missiles will actually arrive or just be a pawn in Russia's move? πŸ’£
 
I'm low-key impressed that Putin managed to talk his way out of some serious heat from Trump 🀯. But for real though, this is a huge curveball for Ukraine - having the option to get those Tomahawk missiles would be a total game-changer in the war against Russia πŸ”₯. I don't know what's going on with Trump and Putin's dynamic, but it's clear that they're playing a super tricky game πŸ€”.

On one hand, you've got Ukraine getting some hope after feeling like they were being totally ignored by the US πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ. And on the other hand, Russia just got some major concessions out of this deal without having to give up much themselves 😏. It's like they're playing a masterclass in geopolitics here πŸ‘Š.

But for Ukraine, it's all about the momentum - can they keep this momentum going and actually get those missiles? Or is Trump's "success" in the Middle East just going to be the only thing he's talking about from now on πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ.
 
OMG u guys 🀯 i have some tea on this trump Putin situation and it's giving me major doubts about trump's commitment to helping Ukraine πŸ€” like yes we all want peace in ukraine but trump's been flip flopping so much it's hard to trust him rn

i mean think about it he starts talking tough on russia then has a calm convo with putin and suddenly he's backing off his threats what's the plan here tho? πŸ€‘ is this just a game of keep putting pressure on ukraine then backing down when Putin gives in? i don't get it

and what about the tomahawk missiles we all want those for ukraine but now they're not even guaranteed so let's just chill for now πŸ˜’
 
omg what's with all these phone calls between trump and putin?! 🀯 i dont get why america cant just be straight with russia about what they want them to do? like, is it too much to ask for some clarity on this whole tomahawk missile thing? πŸ€” i mean, ukraine needs those missiles to defend themselves, but at the same time, ukrainians are dying and losing their homes because of the war...it just feels so unfair πŸ˜”
 
I'm confused about why Russia would want to give Ukraine more firepower πŸ€”. Don't get me wrong, I feel bad for the Ukrainian people and all, but isn't this just going to escalate the situation? It seems like Putin is just trying to keep Trump happy on his own terms πŸ’Έ. And what's with Trump's track record of backing down from tough decisions? Is he really that easily swayed? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ I just don't get why Russia would give Ukraine Tomahawk missiles if it means they'll have more ammo for the war πŸ”«. It seems like this is all just a game, and I'm not sure who's going to come out on top in the end 😬
 
πŸ€” what's good with this? Russia gets somethin' outta this deal and Ukraine's still stuck in limbo πŸ™„ the railways are gettin' destroyed left & right tho it's a mess over there πŸš‚πŸ’₯ Tomahawk missiles would've been game changers but now they're just a maybe πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ why did Trump do this? Was it just another one of his 'masterstrokes'? πŸ™ƒ
 
idk how much more of this back and forth trump can do... like he's just trying to be the hero or something πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ but really he's just playing with fire. zelensky needs those tomahawk missiles ASAP, not some maybe-later possibility πŸ•°οΈ meanwhile russia is just sitting there enjoying the uncertainty and waiting for trump to make another move πŸ’£ it's like they're all just pawns in a super complicated game... anyone else think trump's gonna turn out to be more of a hindrance than a help for ukraine? πŸ˜’
 
πŸ€” I think this is a total game-changer for Ukraine! I mean, can you imagine having those Tomahawk missiles on your side? Game over for Russia! πŸš€ But at the same time, we gotta wonder if it's all just talk and no action from Trump. I'm so down for some optimism here though, maybe this is the push Zelensky needs to keep going! πŸ’ͺ
 
the kremlin's move seems like a total win for them 🀝, i mean who needs tomahawk missiles when you can get trump to back off his threats? πŸ˜‚ seriously though, it's like they're playing us like fools - every time trump gets frustrated with putin, he just calms down after talking to him. it's like a never-ending game of cat and mouse 🐈. meanwhile, ukraine is stuck in this bloody war for what feels like forever πŸ’€, and trump's claim that he can turn his "success" in the middle east into momentum towards peace in ukraine? please πŸ™„, i'm not buying it.
 
I'm not sure I trust this new development πŸ€”... Ukraine really needs those Tomahawk missiles ASAP and now we're stuck with a phone call between Trump and Putin πŸ“ž. It's like they're playing a game of chess, but the stakes are way too high. I mean, what's in it for Trump? Is he just trying to save face or is there something more going on here? πŸ˜’ Russia needs those missiles just as much as Ukraine does, so it feels like we're just feeding the beast 🀯... Can't believe we're at this point again πŸ’”.
 
Trump's moves on Ukraine are super confusing πŸ˜’πŸ’₯. I'm all for peace and all, but every time he talks to Putin, things just seem to get weird πŸ€”πŸ‘€. Like, did the US just give Russia a free pass to keep taking over Ukraine's railways? πŸš‚πŸ˜±. And what about the Tomahawk missiles? Will they ever even show up in Ukraine? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈπŸ”«. It's all so unpredictable and stressful πŸ’₯😬. Can't we just get some real action from our leaders instead of playing phone games with each other πŸ“žπŸ’β€β™€οΈ.
 
πŸ€” Trump's phone call with Putin was super weird 😳. Like, what did he just do? πŸ€‘ He was all like "I'm gonna give Ukraine Tomahawk missiles" and then suddenly changes his mind πŸ’Έ. It's so frustrating for Ukraine right now 😩. They need those missiles to fight back against Russia and it's like Trump is just messing with them πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ.

Russia is getting the upper hand in this whole thing πŸš€, and it's not a good sign πŸ‘Ž. The railways are super important for both sides, and now Ukraine is fighting on two fronts 🚫. It's going to be a long winter for them ❄️. I'm just hoping they can figure out what's going on with Trump and get some real help πŸ˜•. Maybe someone will put their foot down and tell him to stop messing around πŸ’ͺ. Fingers crossed 🀞!
 
omg is this really how politics works?? like trump just talks to putin and suddenly ukraine gets tomahawk missiles lol what a curveball indeed 🀯 i feel like zelensky needs to be more patient lol anyway russia has been fighting for control of the railways and it's so sad that civilians are getting hurt πŸ™ i hope someone figures out how to stop this war soon πŸ’”
 
trump's got all the trump cards πŸ€”. seriously tho, how long can ukraine keep holding on? its not like the us is gonna send in some air force & save them or something πŸ’£. russians got this on lockdown, and trumps tweets aren't exactly reassuring πŸ’₯
 
πŸ€” what's up with trump and russia? like i get that they're both powerful dudes but is this really the best we can do? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ zelensky needs those tomahawk missiles to even stand a chance against russia, and now it's all up to trump's whim. like, has he not seen the devastation these wars have caused? 🚨 i'm not saying Putin is perfect either, but can't we just have one stable peace agreement for once? 😩
 
omg what's going on with trump and putin ?? 🀯 I'm trying to follow this whole thing but honestly it's like they're playing a game of chess with world diplomacy as the prize 🎲 Ukraine is just trying to survive and stay safe but meanwhile trump is all over the place πŸ™ƒ One minute he's gonna help them, next minute he's like "nah i'm outta here" 🚫 I don't trust this at all, especially with russia involved 🚫πŸ’₯ it's gonna be a long 4th winter of war if they can't figure this out πŸ”₯
 
πŸ€” this whole thing feels super fishy to me... like trump is just using his phone calls with putin as a way to get out of making any actual decisions on ukraine πŸ“ž... and now zelensky is left holding onto hope for those tomahawk missiles but its anyone's guess if they'll actually happen πŸ’₯... meantime, russias military is still wreaking havoc in ukraine and it feels like the international community is just standing around waiting to see what happens next πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ... we need a clearer plan of action here, not just empty promises and phone calls πŸ“²
 
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