The Guardian view on hybrid cars: profitable for carmakers but not very green | Editorial

VantaViper

Well-known member
The Future of Hybrid Cars: A Profitable yet Environmentally Unfriendly Solution

Twenty years ago, the Economist predicted that hybrid cars would become the norm. Fast forward to today, and it's clear that while battery technology has improved significantly, plug-in hybrids (PHEVs) are not as green as claimed. In fact, they emit just 19% less carbon dioxide than traditional petrol and diesel cars, far short of the 75% promised in lab tests.

The industry is reaping the benefits of PHEVs, with carmakers charging top dollar for these modified vehicles. However, policymakers are being duped into thinking that hybrids offer a sustainable solution, when in reality they're just a way to keep profits rolling in while avoiding stricter emissions targets.

Four major European automotive companies avoided millions of euros in fines by claiming that emissions compliance wasn't based on real-world data. Instead of investing in electric vehicles (EVs), which are poised to become the dominant technology, carmakers are sticking with hybrids and petrol cars.

New competitors, such as China's BYD, are stealing a march on the industry. The UK has just become the largest international market for BYD, and its cheaper EV models will compete directly with Chinese-made vehicles that sell for less than Β£20,000.

However, even BYD may face challenges from Toyota, which promises to deliver solid-state batteries by 2027. These new batteries could make electric cars a viable option for long-distance travel, but only if the industry shifts towards sustainability and equity.

The question remains: should cars remain the dominant form of transport? While EVs offer cleaner power, they also pose risks such as congestion and road fatalities. Moreover, relying solely on EVs overlooks planetary limits, particularly in terms of accessing critical minerals.

A just transition requires not only cleaner cars but also fewer of them. It's time to reshape urban life around mass transit and move away from a carbon-intensive economy. By doing so, we can create a more sustainable future where the benefits are shared equitably among all nations.
 
πŸš—πŸ’Έ I'm getting tired of hearing about hybrids being the solution. We need to wake up and realize that our addiction to cars is part of the problem 🌎. EVs may have some flaws, but at least they're a step in the right direction. Let's focus on building mass transit systems and making cities more livable instead of relying on cars as the primary mode of transport πŸ‘£πŸ’¨.
 
I'm really worried about where the automotive industry is headed πŸ€”. I mean, don't get me wrong, electric vehicles (EVs) are super cool and all, but it's like they're just pushing plug-in hybrids (PHEVs) out as a way to make more money πŸ’Έ while still not doing enough to save the planet 🌎.

I'm looking at European carmakers right now, and I'm like "seriously? You guys are making millions off PHEVs when you could be investing in EVs?" It's all about avoiding stricter emissions targets, which is just ridiculous πŸ˜’. And let's not forget China's BYD is already killing it with cheaper EV models πŸš€.

But what's really got me thinking is that we need to rethink our whole transportation system πŸš—πŸ’¨. We're still relying on cars and roads, which are contributing so much to emissions and congestion. It's like we're stuck in the past, you know? What if we invested more in mass transit and public transport instead? Maybe then we could create a future where EVs aren't just a luxury for the wealthy πŸ€‘.

It's all about finding that balance, I guess... but for now, I'm rooting for BYD and Toyota to make some real changes πŸ”‹. We need to make sustainable transportation accessible to everyone, not just the rich 🌈.
 
πŸš—πŸ’‘ The notion that hybrid cars represent a 'sustainable solution' is, in my opinion, a misnomer. While they may offer some eco-friendly benefits, their environmental impact is still relatively substantial. The fact that plug-in hybrids emit only 19% less CO2 than traditional petrol and diesel cars is underwhelming, to say the least. Moreover, the industry's reluctance to shift towards electric vehicles (EVs) despite BYD's innovative cheaper models and Toyota's promise of solid-state batteries by 2027 raises serious questions about our collective commitment to sustainability.

It's high time we reassess our transportation priorities and invest in mass transit infrastructure that prioritizes equity and social justice. By doing so, we can create a more sustainable future where clean energy is accessible to all nations. The benefits of reduced emissions would be substantial, not just for the environment, but also for public health and economic equality.

We must acknowledge the limitations of our current transportation system and strive towards a paradigm shift that prioritizes people over profit and the planet over petrol-guzzling cars. Only then can we ensure a future where sustainable mobility is within reach for all.
 
I'm with EVs being the devil we know πŸ’”... think hybrids just a cop-out πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ. Car makers are milking this PHEV thing for all it's worth, but let's be real, they're not exactly green 🌱. I mean, 19% less CO2 is still a far cry from the hype 🚫. And don't even get me started on these European car companies dodging emissions fines πŸ€‘... what a joke! 🀑

By the time Toyota brings out those solid-state batteries in 2027, it'll probably be too little, too late ⏰. I mean, we need EVs now, not after a few years down the line πŸš—. And yeah, there are risks with congestion and road fatalities, but come on, that's just part of the trade-off πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ. We need to rethink urban life ASAP and ditch this carbon-intensive economy 🌎. Mass transit is key, folks! πŸ‘Š
 
πŸš—πŸ’‘ I'm really frustrated with the whole hybrid car situation. They're supposed to be better for the environment, but it seems like they're just a way for carmakers to make some extra cash while playing it safe. And now we have companies like BYD coming in and offering affordable EVs that are actually changing the game. But at the same time, I can understand why people might be hesitant about EVs - congestion, road safety, accessing critical minerals... it's a lot to consider.

I think what's missing here is a broader conversation about how we're using our cars and where they're taking us. Like, do we really need four cars in every household? πŸ€” Can't we just have a few reliable modes of transportation that are affordable for everyone? It's not just about the technology, it's about our entire lifestyle.

And what's with the profit motive getting in the way of innovation? I mean, sure, carmakers need to make money, but can't they do that without sacrificing our planet? πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ I guess it's a tough balance, but I think we need to start prioritizing people and the planet over profits. We owe it to ourselves and future generations.
 
I'm totally against making hybrid cars the norm it's just another way for car companies to line their pockets πŸ€‘. I mean, who needs 19% less carbon dioxide when you can have 100% of your money back in your pocket? And don't even get me started on policymakers thinking they're getting a sustainable solution - newsflash: hybrids are just a band-aid on the problem. We need to be pushing for electric vehicles ASAP, but at what cost? πŸ€” Those fancy solid-state batteries from Toyota are gonna break the bank. And let's not forget about all the critical minerals we'll be draining when everyone goes electric... it's time to rethink our whole transportation system and make mass transit a thing instead of just moving more cars around πŸš—πŸ’¨.
 
I was just thinking about my aunt's garden the other day 🌱. She has these adorable little succulents that she's super proud of. Anyway, back to cars... I mean, have you ever noticed how some roads are just too narrow for those crazy SUVs? πŸš—πŸ˜© My friend's sister had a fender bender with one and now her car is all scratched up. Maybe we should start designing roads with smaller cars in mind? Just saying πŸ’‘
 
This is so frustrating πŸ€•... I feel like these companies are just playing with our minds, knowing that hybrids aren't as eco-friendly as they claim. And it's not just about the environment - it's about people's lives too. We can't keep ignoring the risks of congestion and road fatalities. But at the same time, I do see the point about mass transit and a more sustainable future... it's all about finding that balance πŸŒŽπŸ’š. We need to support companies like BYD that are leading the way with affordable EVs, but we also need to hold these big corporations accountable for their actions. We can't keep relying on them to save us - it's up to each and every one of us to demand change πŸ’ͺ🏽
 
I'm all for switching to electric vehicles (EVs) ASAP πŸš€πŸŒŽ but I gotta say, I'm a bit skeptical about these new solid-state batteries from Toyota πŸ’‘. While it's exciting to think they could make EVs more viable for long-distance travel, let's not forget we're still talking about mass production and the environmental impact of mining those critical minerals πŸ€”πŸ’Έ.

And don't even get me started on the whole urban planning thing - I mean, have you seen how cars are just gonna dominate our cities no matter what? πŸš—πŸŒ† It's like policymakers think we can just magically make EVs appear and suddenly everything's fine πŸ˜’. Newsflash: it takes more than just cleaner cars to create a sustainable future, we need to rethink the way we live and work too 🀯.

Still, I gotta give BYD some props - their cheap EV models are a game-changer for mass market adoption πŸ‘. And hey, at least they're trying to mix things up in an industry that's been stuck in its ways for far too long πŸ”„. Maybe with the right support and investment, we can actually make this transition thing happen πŸ’ͺ.
 
Ugh, hybrids r like the ultimate example of "good enough" πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ. I mean, 19% less emissions is kinda cool and all, but let's be real, it's not exactly going to save the planet from certain doom πŸ˜’. And don't even get me started on how they're just a way for carmakers to keep making cash while pretending to care about sustainability πŸ€‘.

I mean, where's the innovation? Where's the focus on creating something truly revolutionary? Electric vehicles are the future, and it's time we start taking them seriously πŸ’₯. Sure, there are risks involved with mass transit and road fatalities, but that's a problem that can be solved with better infrastructure and planning πŸ“ˆ.

And let's not forget about the accessibility issue – what about people in rural areas who don't have access to EV charging stations? We need to think bigger than just cleaner cars, we need to rethink our entire transportation system πŸš—πŸ’‘.
 
I'm getting really frustrated with the whole hybrid car thing 🀯. Like, I know battery tech has improved, but come on 19% less CO2 than traditional cars? That's not exactly setting the world ablaze for sustainability πŸ˜’. And don't even get me started on how the industry is just using it as a way to rake in profits while avoiding stricter emissions targets πŸ’Έ.

I mean, what's really going on here? The carmakers are getting away with it because of some dodgy data and loopholes 🀫. Meanwhile, BYD is coming out with these crazy cheap EVs that are going to disrupt the whole market πŸš€.

But for real though, we need to think bigger than just cleaner cars. We need a fundamental shift in our transportation systems and our entire economy πŸ’‘. How can we even talk about sustainability when we're still stuck on carbon-intensive modes of transport? And what about the environmental impact of getting all those EVs charged up? πŸ€”

I guess the question is, are we ready to take a leap forward and reshape urban life around mass transit and equity? I hope so πŸ’ͺ. We can't just keep relying on cars as a solution, it's time for a more just transition that benefits everyone 🌎.
 
I'm super disappointed in the state of our transportation system πŸš—πŸ˜”. I mean, think about it - 19% less emissions is still way off from what was promised and we're just accepting that as 'good enough'? πŸ˜’ Meanwhile, carmakers are raking it in from selling these hybrid cars and petrol cars, while governments are being duped into believing they're doing the right thing.

But here's the thing - I'm not saying hybrids don't have their place. They do! However, we need to be more realistic about our emissions targets and invest in electric vehicles ASAP ⏱️. The fact that BYD is killing it in the EV market with affordable prices (£20k or less!) is a wake-up call for us all.

We need to rethink our transportation systems entirely - mass transit, urban planning, the whole shebang πŸŒ†. And yeah, I know electric cars aren't perfect either (accessing minerals, congestion, etc.), but at least they're trying! We can't just keep relying on a carbon-intensive economy and expect a sustainable future ⚑️.

I'm all for a 'just transition' that benefits everyone, not just the companies lining their pockets πŸ’Έ. It's time to get serious about reducing emissions and creating a more equitable world 🌎
 
πŸš—πŸ’Έ I mean, come on! You're telling me that hybrid cars are just a way to make bank while pretending to care about the environment? πŸ€‘ It's like they're playing us, expecting us to believe that 19% less carbon dioxide is some kind of huge accomplishment. πŸ˜’ Lab tests don't even count for squat in real life! And don't even get me started on the fines they avoided... millions of euros and nothing changes. πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ Meanwhile, companies like BYD are actually innovating and making EVs affordable. It's time to level up and focus on sustainability, not just greenwashing profits. πŸ’š
 
I'm telling you, these hybrid car manufacturers are playing us for fools πŸ™„. They're making bank off of our desire to save the planet, but in reality, they're just prolonging the use of dirty cars. And don't even get me started on the European companies that dodged fines by using fake data - totally unacceptable! 😑

But what really gets my goat is that people think EVs are a panacea all on their own. Newsflash: they're not a silver bullet πŸš€. They still require critical minerals, and there's no ignoring the fact that our transportation systems need to change fundamentally.

It's time for us to demand better - cleaner cars, more mass transit options, and an economy that works for everyone, not just a select few πŸ’Έ. We can't keep relying on incremental solutions when the real challenge is systemic 🀯.
 
Back
Top