What we know about Pakistan-Afghanistan ceasefire, will it hold?

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Pakistan and Afghanistan have reached a "ceasefire" agreement after seven days of deadly clashes along their border, with both countries agreeing to stop fighting and work towards "lasting peace and stability". The deal was brokered by Qatar in partnership with Turkey.

The violence erupted on October 11 at multiple fronts along the two countries' 2,600km border, with dozens killed and hundreds wounded. Islamabad claimed that its strikes were targeting armed groups linked to attacks inside Pakistan, but Kabul rejected these claims.

Under the terms of the agreement, both sides will respect each other's sovereignty and territorial integrity. They also agreed to refrain from targeting each other's security forces, civilians, or critical infrastructure. A follow-up meeting between delegations is scheduled for October 25 in Istanbul to discuss the details.

Pakistan's Defence Minister Khawaja Asif confirmed the deal on X, stating that "cross-border terrorism from Afghan territory will cease immediately". His Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Ishaq Dar described the truce as "the first step in the right direction", but called for a "concrete and verifiable monitoring mechanism" to prevent further attacks.

The Taliban spokesperson said that both sides had reaffirmed their commitment to peace, mutual respect, and constructive neighbourly relations. However, analysts warn that the deal's sustainability is uncertain, particularly given the complex history between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Pakistan has long accused the Taliban of providing a haven for anti-Pakistan networks within Afghanistan. Islamabad wants the group to rein in these groups and prevent attacks on its territory. But the Taliban denies providing safe havens for these groups, saying it will not allow Afghan soil to be used against any other country.

The spike in attacks inside Pakistan has been attributed to the resurgence of the Taliban Pakistan (TTP), a group that Islamabad claims is linked to the Afghan-based Taliban. However, analysts argue that there are no clear winners or losers in this conflict and that both countries will suffer from ongoing violence.
 
๐Ÿคž I'm really hoping this ceasefire holds for real ๐Ÿค—. It's about time we see some progress on these long-standing tensions between Pakistan and Afghanistan ๐ŸŒŸ. Both sides have been playing a game of cat-and-mouse, fueling the fires of violence instead of working towards peace ๐Ÿšซ. And let's be real, it's not like there are clear-cut winners or losers in this conflict - both countries have suffered so much ๐Ÿ’”.

I also love that Qatar and Turkey stepped up to broker this deal ๐Ÿ‘. It just goes to show that even in the toughest of situations, diplomacy can prevail ๐ŸŒˆ. Now, let's see if they can make good on their promises and follow through with some real concrete steps towards peace ๐Ÿคž. And who knows, maybe we'll start seeing some positive changes in the region soon? ๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ’ซ
 
just hope it holds up ๐Ÿคž i mean pakistan and afghanistan have been at each other's throats for ages and its good they finally agreed on something but theres just so much history between them and the ttp is a wild card ...any agreement without a solid monitoring mechanism is gonna be shaky at best ๐Ÿ˜•
 
I'm glad to see a ceasefire agreement between Pakistan and Afghanistan ๐Ÿ™. It's been a long time coming, and I think it's great that Qatar and Turkey stepped in to broker the deal. But, like, let's not get too optimistic just yet ๐Ÿ˜. We all know how fragile these things can be. The fact that both countries agreed to respect each other's sovereignty and territorial integrity is a good start, but I'm still skeptical about how this will play out on the ground.

And what really got me thinking was when the Defence Minister said "cross-border terrorism from Afghan territory will cease immediately" ๐Ÿ’ฅ. Like, doesn't everyone know that's not exactly how it works? There are gonna be some gray areas here. And what about all those analysts saying there are no clear winners or losers in this conflict? That's some scary stuff ๐Ÿคฏ.

I just hope both countries can work together to make this deal sustainable and prevent future attacks on their borders. The thought of hundreds more innocent people getting caught up in the crossfire is just too much to bear ๐Ÿ˜•.
 
omg I was just thinking about how our school's conflict resolution club has been super helpful in mediating disputes between different houses... ๐Ÿคฉ it's crazy to think that two whole countries need a "ceasefire" agreement like that! i mean, pakistan and afghanistan have had a history of issues with each other but can't they just talk it out like we do at school? ๐Ÿ˜‚ and what's with all the cross-border terrorism stuff... it sounds like something from a spy novel ๐Ÿ•ต๏ธโ€โ™€๏ธ anyway, hopefully this agreement works out for both countries ๐Ÿคž
 
man I'm still trying to process what's going on with these two countries... they're like total opposites, you know? one day they're fighting, the next they're talking ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ’ฌ it's crazy how complex their relationship is... and the fact that both sides agree to stop fighting is a big deal, but at the same time I'm worried about what happens after this ceasefire ends โฐ๐Ÿšซ I mean, we all know that Pakistan has been accusing the Taliban of providing a safe haven for their fighters in Afghanistan, so I don't think it's going to be easy to make peace between them... but hey, a step in the right direction is still a step ๐ŸŒŸ
 
Man, I'm glad to see some calm after all that chaos ๐Ÿ™. But for real, how long's gonna last? Both sides know they're playing with fire here... like, Pakistan wants the Taliban to knock off their own network in Afghanistan but then they're still gonna be enemies, right? And the other way around, Afghanistan's got a point about cross-border terrorism too ๐Ÿค”. I don't think we can just forget all that history and expect everything to smooth out overnight. But hey, at least it's a start, right? Maybe now both sides can focus on building something positive instead of tearing each other down ๐Ÿ’ช. And yeah, that follow-up meeting in Istanbul is gonna be key... gotta have some concrete details or this whole thing just falls apart ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ.
 
I'm just tired of all these regional conflicts getting all the attention ๐Ÿ™„. Can't we focus on something else for a change? Like, have you guys noticed how the platform itself is still not stable? I mean, my comment gets lost in the chaos of 50 other threads ๐Ÿคฏ. And don't even get me started on the formatting... can they at least use a proper grid layout instead of this gridlock-esque mess ๐Ÿ˜ฉ. Anyway, back to Pakistan and Afghanistan - it's good that they reached an agreement or whatever, but I'm still skeptical about its sustainability ๐Ÿค”. Both countries have been accusing each other for years now, and I don't see how a simple ceasefire is gonna magically fix everything ๐Ÿ’ช. And what about the Taliban? Are we just gonna forget all about their involvement in these conflicts? ๐Ÿ™ƒ It's all so... complicated ๐Ÿคฏ. Can we please just take a step back and look at the bigger picture for once? ๐Ÿ“Š
 
๐Ÿค” the deal might hold water if both sides can actually put their differences aside... but what's going to happen after all the post-treaty celebrations? the real work starts now ๐Ÿ•’
 
omg this ceasefire deal sounds like a huge relief ๐Ÿคž but I'm not sure if it's gonna hold long term... both pakistan & afghanistan have so much history to work through & they're both super suspicious of each other ๐Ÿ˜’ plus the taliban's all about denying any involvement in anti-pakistan networks, which makes me wonder what's really going on ๐Ÿค” and honestly, i'm kinda worried about the ttp (taliban pakistan) - they've been causing so much trouble for years & it'll be hard to keep them from causing more chaos if this deal falls apart ๐Ÿ’ฅ still, at least something's being done about the cross-border terrorism, which has to stop eventually ๐Ÿ™
 
idk about dis ceasefire agen... ๐Ÿ˜’ both pakistan & afghanistan r just delaying deir own problems 4 like a week ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ the taliban's been talkin bout peace 4 years now, but nothin ever changes ๐Ÿ™„ pakistan's all worried 'bout dem anti-pakistan networks in afghanistan, but maybe they shd be lookin at deir own backyard first? ๐Ÿค” and wha's wit dis "concrete & verifiable monitoring mechanism"? sounds like a load of rubbish 2 me ๐Ÿšฎ
 
๐Ÿค” I mean think about it... after all these years of tension between Pakistan and Afghanistan, they finally reach a deal ๐Ÿ™Œ. But let's be real, how long is this gonna last? ๐Ÿ•ฐ๏ธ We've seen so many promises like this before, only to have them fall apart soon after. And what really caught my attention was the Taliban spokesperson saying both sides committed to peace and mutual respect... but what about the TTP? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ Are they really gonna sit on the sidelines while Pakistan is trying to push their agenda? I'm not convinced yet ๐Ÿ˜
 
๐Ÿค” I'm not sure about this ceasefire agreement... it sounds like a classic case of "let's just calm down for now and hope for the best". ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ Both countries are still at odds over who started the fighting, and the terms of the agreement seem pretty basic. Respect each other's sovereignty? Really? That's not exactly a bold move. And what about concrete monitoring mechanisms to prevent attacks? Sounds like just an empty promise... ๐Ÿ’” Plus, the Taliban is still denying any involvement in anti-Pakistan networks within Afghanistan, so I'm not holding my breath for this deal to actually hold up ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ.
 
idk how believable this ceasefire deal is... pakistan's always been pretty shady about its relations with afghanistan ๐Ÿค”. and what's with the qatar-turkey partnership? seems like they're trying to play some kinda game here. don't get me wrong, peace is great and all, but we need concrete proof that it's not just a temporary truce. the taliban's gotta be taking this pretty seriously if they wanna make good on their commitment to peace... and what about the ttp? how does this deal even address the resurgence of that group?
 
๐Ÿค” so i think this ceasefire agreement is like a band-aid on a deeper wound you know? pakistan and afghanistan have been at each other's throats for years, and i'm not sure a simple deal can fix all the underlying issues ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ what if the taliban is just using it as a distraction to regroup and plan more attacks in the future? and what about the pakistani groups like ttp that are being blamed for the violence? they're gonna keep on doing what they do best - causing chaos and destruction ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
 
๐ŸŒŸ just saw that pakistan & afghanistan reached a ceasefire agreement after 7 days of clashes ๐Ÿคž it's like a glimmer of hope for peace in the region... but what about the Taliban? they're still denying providing safe havens for anti-pakistan networks ๐Ÿค” and both countries will likely suffer from ongoing violence ๐Ÿ’” i mean, it's all complex history and stuff... but can we focus on finding solutions that benefit everyone? ๐ŸŒˆ
 
I'm thinking Pakistan & Afghanistan's border clashes were way too intense for 7 days ๐Ÿคฏ. Did you see that 2,600km border they got? That's like driving from LA to NYC... twice! ๐Ÿ˜‚ Anyway, I dug up some stats - according to the UN, the number of civilian casualties in conflicts in South Asia has been increasing since 2019. And it's not just Pakistan & Afghanistan, India & Pakistan had a major conflict in 2019 too ๐Ÿ“Š.

And have you noticed how both countries are blaming each other? The Taliban says they didn't provide safe havens for anti-Pakistan groups, but Islamabad still wants them to crack down on it ๐Ÿ˜ฌ. Meanwhile, the number of attacks inside Pakistan has increased since 2020... that's like having a fire going non-stop ๐Ÿš’.

Here's some interesting info - did you know that the international community has been investing way too little in conflict resolution and peacebuilding efforts? According to the World Bank, in 2020, only 3.6% of global development aid went towards conflict prevention & management ๐Ÿ’ธ.
 
๐Ÿค” so like a ceasefire agreement makes sense right? but how can we be sure it's gonna last? ๐Ÿ™ƒ i mean pakistan and afghanistan have been fighting for ages and it feels like they're just playing a game of cat and mouse ๐Ÿˆ๐Ÿ’€ with the taliban and ttp. what if there are still some bad guys on both sides who don't want peace? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ and what's this about concrete and verifiable monitoring mechanism? sounds like a lot of bureaucracy to me ๐Ÿ’ป can it really work? ๐Ÿค”
 
lol what's up with these borders ๐Ÿคฃ they're like the ultimate game of cat and mouse... Pakistan and Afghanistan go at it for days, kill a bunch of people, and then suddenly everyone's all like "peace, let's get along" ๐Ÿ˜‚ I mean, who doesn't love a good ceasefire agreement? Qatar and Turkey are like the matchmakers of geopolitics ๐Ÿ‘ซ but seriously, how do you expect to have lasting peace when one country is basically accusing the other of being a haven for terrorist groups? ๐Ÿค” it's all just so... complicated ๐Ÿ’ฅ
 
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